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The Big Idea

Twenty-eight years across some of the world’s biggest creative networks. Now Global Group CEO of We Are Social, the largest and most-awarded social-first creative agency, on what social-first really means, why the big idea is bigger than ever, and why the worst thing a brand can do today is be ignorable.

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The Business of Marketing Season 5  ·  Episode 96  ·  34 min

“Brand strategy means everything.”

Toby Southgate is Global Group CEO of We Are Social, the world’s first, largest and most-awarded global social-first creative agency, with 1,200 people across 16 offices. Twenty-eight years on a path that started by accident at a creative agency in Edinburgh in the late 90s, ran through WPP’s Brand Union (where he became the network’s youngest Worldwide CEO at 35), McCann Worldgroup and Forsman & Bodenfors, and now lands at the agency rebuilding the role of social in the creative mix.

Toby grew up wanting to be a professional cricketer. He went to university for economics on his grandfather’s advice (art was not a proper subject), spent six months in a bank, hated it, moved back to Scotland, joined a publishing company that was experimenting with selling content online, and got a call from an Edinburgh agency that thought he knew something about the internet. He arrived expecting a recruitment agency and found Navy Blue: a warehouse full of skateboards, sneakers, loud music, and a chairman called Phil Jones running a .com division. He never left the industry.

In December 2007 Toby was recruited through WPP to join Brand Union, initially to launch a new office in Abu Dhabi. He spent two years in the Middle East, then a year in New York managing the integration of JWT’s Corporate Communications business and Ogilvy’s Brand Identity Group into the Brand Union US operation. He ran the UK and Ireland business from 2011 to 2013, became CEO Americas in 2013, and on 1 July 2015 became Worldwide CEO of Brand Union, WPP’s youngest network CEO at the time. Clients included Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Vodafone, Sony, IAG, HSBC, GlaxoSmithKline and Reckitt Benckiser.

From September 2017 Toby spent four years at McCann Worldgroup as Chief Growth Officer in New York, working on the agency’s second-stage journey to becoming great again. From August 2021 to October 2024 he was Global CEO of Forsman & Bodenfors, the Swedish creative collective inside Stagwell, helping integrate the agency globally through the holding group’s evolution. In February 2025 he became Global Group CEO of We Are Social, the social-first creative agency owned by Plus Company, with clients including adidas, Samsung, Netflix, Visa, Microsoft, Activision and Google.

28 years
2025–Now
We Are Social · Global Group CEO
The world’s first, largest and most-awarded global social-first creative agency, part of Plus Company since 2021. 1,200 people across 16 offices. Clients include adidas, Samsung, Netflix, Visa, Microsoft, Activision and Google. Joined February 2025.
2021–2024
Forsman & Bodenfors · Global CEO
Three years and three months leading the Swedish creative collective founded in 1986, integrating the agency globally through Stagwell’s evolution. Built unusually human brands across markets.
2017–2021
McCann Worldgroup · Chief Growth Officer
Four years in New York leading growth across the McCann network at the second-stage point of the agency’s rebuild.
2015–2017
Brand Union · Worldwide CEO
Appointed Worldwide CEO on 1 July 2015 at 35 years old, the youngest network CEO inside WPP at the time. Clients included Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Vodafone, Sony, IAG, HSBC, Pernod Ricard, GlaxoSmithKline, Mubadala, Reckitt Benckiser, Swire Group, Prudential and Qatar National Bank.
2013–2015
Brand Union · CEO, Americas
Almost two years of regional leadership for one of the world’s four global brand consultancies, based in New York.
2007–2013
Brand Union · Managing Director (Middle East, then UK & Ireland)
Joined Brand Union in December 2007 through WPP to launch a new office in Abu Dhabi; two years in the Middle East. Spent 2010 in New York integrating JWT’s Corporate Communications (Brouillard) and Ogilvy’s Brand Identity Group (BIG) into the US operation. Ran the UK and Ireland business from January 2011 to July 2013, including the global partnership with interaction consultancy Digit.
1997–2007
Navy Blue and earlier · Edinburgh and London
First agency role at Navy Blue in Edinburgh in the late 90s, the creative company chaired by Phil Jones with a .com division ahead of its time. Helped the agency modernise for the internet era. Later roles in brand consulting and strategy before joining Brand Union through WPP in 2007.
28Years Across Some of the Largest Creative Networks in the World
1,200People Across 16 We Are Social Offices Globally
35Age He Became WPP’s Youngest Network CEO at Brand Union

“Creativity is the whole solution to the problem.”

How he thinks 03 convictions
01Social is not a channel.

“We Are Social is not we are social media. It is a statement on how human beings build relationships.”

Social media started as a channel and became something larger: the place where audiences set the pace, where brands are met (or not) by communities, where the truth is in the comments rather than the content. Toby’s argument is that the lessons from social, what used to be a narrow specialism, now apply across the whole marketing mix. Brands that show up authentically and credibly inside the communities they want to reach earn traction quickly. Brands that show up inauthentically, reactively or out of step with what the community already thinks get found out faster than they used to.

02The big idea is bigger than ever. Its definition just changed.

“A sexy headline, a funky soundtrack and an anthemic film is no longer enough. The power of a big idea is greater than ever.”

The Ogilvy-and-Mather 1990s definition of a big idea (the anthemic film, the killer headline, the soundtrack that carried the campaign) is not the same big idea agencies present today. No brand on the planet now has the media dollars to guarantee an anthemic film alone will hit the marketing goal. The big idea still exists. It can live in organic social, in community participation, in unignorable craft that real people choose to share. Its definition evolved; its power expanded.

03Creativity is the problem. Not the output.

“Creativity is the whole solution to the problem. It is never just an execution.”

Toby’s definition of creativity is not the deliverable. AI can now make something average instantly, free, and to a passable standard. That ability commoditises execution. What remains is creativity as a way of thinking, the consideration of the problem, the craft of the response, the question of who shows up and how. In a world where anyone can make something okay quickly, only great cuts through. The worst thing a brand can do is be ignorable. The route out of ignorable is craft inside an idea that has done the strategic thinking first.

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The Business of Marketing
Season 5Episode 9634 min