Conversation Episode 47 B2B · Partnerships · Measurement

Culture is not a perk. It is how Salesforce really shows up for its customers.

Interviewed by John Horsley

Published

Portrait of Salomé Imedashvili, Director, GSI & Strategic Partnerships, Salesforce

Salomé Imedashvili is Director of GSI and Strategic Partnerships at Salesforce, focused on the integration of partner motion into the core marketing function. Her background runs through agency and brand marketing before moving into channel and partner marketing at Salesforce. In this conversation she sets out the 8x-to-10x conversion-rate uplift when marketing runs jointly with partners rather than in isolation; the QBR (Quarterly Business Review) rule she introduced requiring every account team to include a partner-marketing section, which changed Salesforce's internal posture on the partner motion; the case for measuring more than marketing-driven pipeline (partner-influenced and partner-co-built are real); the discipline of starting with partner business outcomes (not Salesforce ones) when designing a joint plan; and the principle that partner marketing is where the brand earns trust beyond its own four walls.

What partner marketing inside Salesforce looks like

The setup.

I'm Director of GSI and Strategic Partnerships at Salesforce. The brief is to integrate the partner motion into the core marketing function. My background is agency and brand marketing before moving into channel and partner marketing. What's changed at Salesforce in the last few years is the recognition that partners are not a side motion: they're a primary route to market for many of our products, and the marketing has to be designed for that reality.

The 8x-to-10x conversion uplift, and why partners change the conversion math

On the data that surprised the internal audience.

When we ran the analysis on conversion rates of leads generated by marketing alone versus leads generated jointly with a partner, the uplift was 8x to 10x. The reason is straightforward. A partner has a relationship with the customer. A partner already has trust. A partner already has technical context. When marketing comes in alongside that, we're meeting a buyer who is further down the journey and who is open to a conversation. The math is not surprising when you look at it that way, but the magnitude is. 8x to 10x is not a small uplift.

On why most B2B marketing organisations miss the partner motion.

Most B2B marketing organisations are built to drive marketing pipeline. The metric is marketing-driven pipeline. Everything is structured around it: budgets, campaigns, lead-routing, attribution. Partner motion lives next door, often reporting into a different function (channel, alliances), with different metrics, different incentives, different language. The two don't meet. Marketing builds the campaign, partners build the relationship, and the customer experiences two disconnected motions.

The fix is structural. Partner marketing has to be inside the marketing function, with shared planning, shared budget visibility, and shared metrics. Otherwise the 8x-to-10x stays theoretical.

The QBR-with-marketing-section rule

On the discipline change that worked.

We introduced a rule: every account team running a Quarterly Business Review with a strategic partner has to include a marketing section. Not a slide on what marketing is doing in general. A specific section on the joint marketing plan with that partner: what we did last quarter, what we learned, what we're planning, where we need support. The QBR is the moment account teams and partners align for the next 90 days; if marketing isn't in the room and on the agenda, marketing isn't part of the partner relationship.

What this changed inside Salesforce: account teams started seeing partner marketing as part of their own job. They started briefing us earlier. They started bringing partners to us with co-build ideas before deals closed, not after. The internal posture on the partner motion changed because the cadence changed.

Partner-driven, partner-influenced, partner-co-built: three different metrics

On the measurement frame.

Marketing-driven pipeline is one metric. It's the lead marketing sourced and handed to sales. That's clean but narrow. The metrics we now track alongside: partner-influenced pipeline (a marketing-sourced lead that closed with partner involvement), partner-sourced pipeline (a partner brought us the opportunity), and partner-co-built pipeline (a lead generated by a joint marketing campaign with a partner). Three different motions, three different attribution models, three different stories about how the partner motion is paying back.

On the case for the CMO measuring more than what they own.

A CMO who only measures marketing-driven pipeline is missing the part of the funnel where the partner motion is doing the work. The instinct is to measure what you can control. The discipline is to measure what's truly moving the business. The two diverge in partner-heavy categories. The CMO has to be willing to take credit for influencing pipeline they didn't strictly source, and willing to be held accountable when the partner-co-built motion underperforms even if the marketing-driven number looks fine.

Start with the partner's outcomes, not yours

On the design of a joint plan.

The mistake is to walk into a partner meeting with our marketing plan and ask them to fit into it. The discipline is to walk in and ask: what are your business outcomes this year, what are your pipeline targets, what are your hardest segments? Then design the joint marketing plan around their outcomes, not ours. The partner has a CFO, a board, a forecast. If the joint plan helps them hit their numbers, the partner will lean in. If the plan helps Salesforce hit ours and treats the partner as a distribution channel, they will not.

On the GSI relationship specifically.

GSIs (Global Systems Integrators) are particularly demanding because they're enormous, they have their own marketing motions, and they work with many tech vendors. A GSI is going to invest in a joint marketing plan with the vendor that respects their economics. The respect is concrete: we co-plan, we co-fund, we share data, we publish joint case studies with their brand alongside ours, and we treat their pipeline targets as as important as our own.

The team, hiring, and the AI question for partner marketing

On the team.

The skills that matter in partner marketing are not the same as in product marketing or demand generation. The partner marketer is part programme manager, part relationship lead, part data analyst, part diplomat. They have to be comfortable being measured on outcomes they only partly control, and comfortable working across the seam between two organisations with different agendas. I hire for the temperament: the patience to build a long-running joint motion, and the discipline to keep measuring it when the numbers take a quarter or two to show.

On AI in the partner motion.

AI is interesting for the partner motion because the joint go-to-market is data-rich and relationship-heavy. The data side is improving fast: better attribution, faster matching of leads against partner CRMs, smarter recommendations on which partner to pair with which opportunity. The relationship side stays human. The partner marketer who walks into a QBR is doing diplomacy as much as analysis. AI helps with the prep; it doesn't replace the meeting.

The advice she would give her younger self

On career.

Take the partner-motion role earlier than the brand or demand-gen path you assume is the safer route. Partner marketing is where you learn how the business really works because you're operating across two organisations and seeing the full economics. That perspective compounds. The marketer who knows how the partner motion runs has a much better view of the company than the marketer who has only run campaigns inside their own four walls.

The question for the board

If culture is not a perk but how the company shows up for customers, what share of our customer outcomes traces back to internal culture?