Guests of The Business of Marketing

EP 98
CREATOR ECONOMY
Milka Privodanova
VP Marketing Solutions, Large Customers International · LinkedIn
Milka Privodanova, VP Marketing Solutions, Large Customers International at LinkedIn
Milka Privodanova
EP 88
DEMAND & GROWTH
Dawn Miley
Senior Director, EMEA Growth Marketing & UK Regional Marketing · Adobe
Dawn Miley, Senior Director, EMEA Growth Marketing & UK Regional Marketing at Adobe
Dawn Miley
EP 85
MEDIA & ADVERTISING
Jem Lloyd-Williams
President of Mindshare and CSO of WPP Media · Mindshare
Jem Lloyd-Williams, President of Mindshare and CSO of WPP Media at Mindshare
Jem Lloyd-Williams
EP 96
BRAND
Toby Southgate
Global Group CEO · We Are Social
Toby Southgate, Global Group CEO at We Are Social
Toby Southgate
EP 97
MEDIA & ADVERTISING
Julie Selman
SVP Head of EMEA · Magnite
Julie Selman, SVP Head of EMEA at Magnite
Julie Selman
EP 79
MEDIA & ADVERTISING
Andrew McCormick
former Chief Growth Officer · dentsu X
Andrew McCormick, former Chief Growth Officer at dentsu X
Andrew McCormick
EP 75
LEADERSHIP
Andrew Bialecki
Co-CEO and Co-Founder · Klaviyo
Andrew Bialecki, Co-CEO and Co-Founder at Klaviyo
Andrew Bialecki
EP 71
PARTNERSHIPS & ECOSYSTEMS
Yondjé Choi Cornez
Head of Partner Marketing Pixel B2B · Google
Yondjé Choi Cornez, Head of Partner Marketing Pixel B2B at Google
Yondjé Choi Cornez
EP 19
AI & AUTOMATION
Simon Morris
VP of International Marketing · Adobe
Simon Morris, VP of International Marketing at Adobe
Simon Morris

“Storytelling is the whole job. That's it.”

Dawn Miley · Senior Director, EMEA Growth Marketing & UK Regional Marketing, Adobe · Ep 88

The minds shaping marketing. Join us on the show →
EP 98 Milka Privodanova
LinkedIn
Milka Privodanova
VP Marketing Solutions, Large Customers International
“AI-ready teams. Not AI-led teams.”
Creator Economy
EP 97 Julie Selman
Magnite
Julie Selman
SVP Head of EMEA
“More problems, better. No problems, no need for you.”
Media & Advertising
EP 96 Toby Southgate
We Are Social
Toby Southgate
Global Group CEO
“Creativity is the whole solution to the problem.”
Brand
EP 95 Soizic Sycamore
Plan.Net Group
Soizic Sycamore
Managing Director
“The middle to lower funnel is the growth engine.”
Customer Experience
EP 94 Paul Cash, Founder and Chief Rooster at Rooster Punk
Rooster Punk
Paul Cash
Founder and Chief Rooster
“It's always the customer is the hero in that story. I think it's often not told by the company.”
Brand
EP 93 Alice Beecroft
Yahoo DSP
Alice Beecroft
Senior Director, Global Strategy and Partnerships
“Customers will no longer come into the DSP UIs.”
Media & Advertising
EP 92 Victoria Dyke
Ziggy
Victoria Dyke
Co-Founder
“Get obsessed with outcomes.”
Demand & Growth
EP 91 Tom Ollerton
Automated Creative
Tom Ollerton
Founder
“You only get data on the things you test.”
AI & Automation
EP 90 Fiona Salmon
Mantis
Fiona Salmon
Managing Director
“The only two people who need to be in the room are brands and publishers.”
Media & Advertising
EP 89 Dragos Marica
Directive
Dragos Marica
Associate Director, Performance Marketing
“Discoverability is the word. Companies are not investing enough in it.”
Demand & Growth
EP 88 Dawn Miley
Adobe
Dawn Miley
Senior Director, EMEA Growth Marketing & UK Regional Marketing
“You have to care about your customer beyond once they pay you.”
Demand & Growth
EP 87 Minter Dial
MYDIAL
Minter Dial
Author, Speaker & Thought Leader
“How would the world be worse off if your company didn’t exist?”
Leadership
EP 86 Martin Corke
Bauer Media Outdoor
Martin Corke
Chief Marketing Officer
“Brand and demand. Not brand or demand.”
Media & Advertising
EP 85 Jem Lloyd-Williams
Mindshare
Jem Lloyd-Williams
President of Mindshare and CSO of WPP Media
“Can I still sit with my mates?”
Media & Advertising
EP 84 Jen Brown
Engaging Interactions
Jen Brown
Director
“Attention is in deficit. Listening is the skill.”
Demand & Growth
EP 83 Jaki Ellenby
ABBA Voyage
Jaki Ellenby
Chief Commercial Officer
“A congregational church show circus. Can’t put that on a poster.”
Brand
EP 82 Chris Elsheikhi
Usercentrics
Chris Elsheikhi
VP Demand Generation
“Three percent of LinkedIn users post three times a week.”
Demand & Growth
EP 81 Bryan Barletta
Sounds Profitable
Bryan Barletta
Founder & Partner
“Just enough to hang ourselves with. Just enough for a hand up.”
Media & Advertising
EP 80 Ben Smith
Reachdesk
Ben Smith
Marketing Director
“Pipeline at 70 percent. Revenue at 30 percent. Compensated like sales.”
Demand & Growth
EP 79 Andrew McCormick
dentsu X
Andrew McCormick
former Chief Growth Officer
“The best client you can have is one you already have.”
Media & Advertising
EP 78 Paul Anderson
Gravity Global
Paul Anderson
Global Founding Partner & Executive Creative Director
“Be human in B2B. Language is the competitive moat.”
Brand
EP 77 Jason Warnes
Independent
Jason Warnes
Marketing Advisor and Investor
“When AI takes the heavy lifting, what is exposed is brand and creative.”
Brand
EP 76 Gareth Cummings
eDesk
Gareth Cummings
CEO
“Answer pre-sales questions within 15 minutes and your chance of a conversion goes up significantly.”
Leadership
EP 75 Andrew Bialecki
Klaviyo
Andrew Bialecki
Co-CEO and Co-Founder
“The leaders who delegate understanding too early make strategic mistakes they cannot see.”
Leadership
EP 74 Maor Sadra
INCRMNTAL
Maor Sadra
CEO & Co-Founder
“Attribution, like it or hate it, is the USD of our industry. It is a currency built on consensus, not truth.”
Measurement & ROI
EP 73 Leon Harlow
YMU
Leon Harlow
Group Commercial Director
“Creators do not need to wait for commissioners. They can connect directly with their audience.”
Creator Economy
EP 72 Mitali Israni
Pantheon
Mitali Israni
Senior Director of Marketing
“When a deal is sourced by a partner, it is 60% more likely to convert to closed won.”
Demand & Growth
EP 71 Yondjé Choi Cornez
Google
Yondjé Choi Cornez
Head of Partner Marketing Pixel B2B
“There is always a discrepancy between what consumers say and what they actually do.”
Partnerships & Ecosystems
EP 70 Stephanie Dittmer Rogers
San Francisco 49ers
Stephanie Dittmer Rogers
EVP of Marketing
“We hosted Super Bowl 50, Beyoncé, Taylor Swift. I pinch myself that I get to work on this brand.”
Brand
EP 69 Charles Simon
RTB House
Charles Simon
Vice President of Private Advertising Standards
“Data governance is about trust between the advertiser and the user.”
Data & Identity
EP 68 Kevin Hein
GIPHY
Kevin Hein
Chief Growth Officer
“It is not the home run people share. It is the pause.”
Brand
EP 67 Christie Sclater
Clinique
Christie Sclater
SVP of Global Marketing
“It doesn’t matter what I say about the brand. It is the experience that other people are having.”
Brand
EP 66 Portrait of Adam Clyne, founder and CEO of Coolr
Coolr
Adam Clyne
Founder & CEO
“Social media was a competition and a brand can win on any day of the week.”
Creator Economy
EP 66 Portrait of Mark Lainas, President of Coolr US
Coolr
Mark Lainas
President US
“You either have a big holdco claiming they can do things that they can't and then failing, or a roster of so many agencies that you can never work out what's working.”
Creator Economy
EP 65 Jay Prasad
Relo Metrics
Jay Prasad
CEO
“Sports is now an asset class, and measurement is what made it investable.”
Measurement & ROI
EP 64 Dennis Buchheim
Snowflake
Dennis Buchheim
Global Head of GTM for Adtech/Martech, Communications, Media & Entertainment
“Business users can now talk directly to data without waiting in the data science queue.”
Data & Identity
EP 63 Greg Licciardi
ANA
Greg Licciardi
VP Sponsorships & Partner Programs
“On Fridays at 11am, the Wendy’s ad arrived in his feed at exactly the moment he was deciding where to eat.”
Brand
EP 62 Dennis Claus
Apply Digital
Dennis Claus
Strategy Lead EMEA
“Think less in terms of milestones and more in terms of momentum.”
Customer Experience
EP 61 Kimberly Hairston-Hicks
Gold Bond
Kimberly Hairston-Hicks
CMO
“I listened to what consumers loved about the brand. They said: it works. That was the equity.”
Brand
EP 60 Darren D’Altorio
Wpromote
Darren D’Altorio
SVP of Paid Media
“Separating brand and performance is one of the dumbest things that ever happened in marketing.”
Media & Advertising
EP 59 Tony Marlow
LG Ad Solutions
Tony Marlow
Chief Marketing Officer
“What gets you from A to B is never what gets you from B to C.”
Media & Advertising
EP 58 Lindsay Boyajian Hagan
Conductor
Lindsay Boyajian Hagan
Vice President Marketing and Co-Head Revenue
“SEO teams used to be the janitors. They cleaned up after the content team. with AEO that team is now the most strategic pillar in the business.”
Media & Advertising
EP 57 Johanna Wahlroos
DoubleVerify
Johanna Wahlroos
VP of Marketing, Global Strategy and Planning
“It all starts with putting yourself in the shoes of the customer.”
Brand
EP 56 Aarti Bhaskaran
Snap
Aarti Bhaskaran
Global Head of Research and Insights
“The convergence of AR and AI is where the next creative frontier lives.”
Data & Identity
EP 55 Shannon Shae Montoya
Yahoo!
Shannon Shae Montoya
Vice President, Head of Global B2B Marketing, Sponsorships & Events
“A memory is a past event that shapes future decisions.”
Brand
EP 54 Oli Bealby
Stereo Creative
Oli Bealby
Co-Founder
“Going from big to small to big to small keeps the edges sharper. Every move added resilience.”
Brand
EP 53 Mindie Kaplan
MediaMint
Mindie Kaplan
VP Innovation
“Authenticity is not a vulnerability. It is a superpower.”
Leadership
EP 52 Ashley Bassman
IBM WatsonX
Ashley Bassman
Program Director, Product Marketing, Data & AI
“The biggest mistake companies will make is over-promising on AI. focus on the use case, not the AI.”
AI & Automation
EP 51 John Piccone
Adform
John Piccone
Regional VP Americas
“You have to find the Davids who want to beat up the Goliaths. That is a character trait, not something you can teach.”
Media & Advertising
EP 50 Kerel Cooper
GumGum
Kerel Cooper
CMO
“What is the most memorable ad you’ve ever seen? The answer is always about emotional connection.”
Media & Advertising
EP 49 Martin Kihn
Salesforce Marketing Cloud
Martin Kihn
SVP, Strategy
“The new paradigm is first-party data in Data Cloud, sent to the walled garden to run the campaign.”
AI & Automation
EP 48 Ruslan Tovbulatov
Gloat
Ruslan Tovbulatov
CMO
“Brand is not the colour and the logo. it’s the relationship a company has with its customers.”
AI & Automation
EP 47 Salomé Imedashvili
Salesforce
Salomé Imedashvili
Director of GSI and Strategic Partnerships
“I’ve sat on both sides of the partner marketing table, and the data only goes one way.”
Partnerships & Ecosystems
EP 46 Gordon Glenister
Membership World
Gordon Glenister
Author, Speaker, Podcast Host, Founder
“A personal brand is not what you tell people you are. It’s what people say about you when you’re not in the room.”
Creator Economy
EP 45 Paul Wright
Uber Advertising
Paul Wright
Head of EMEA
“Everyone talks about innovation. But innovation is something people would like to do, not something they have to do.”
Media & Advertising
EP 44 Ben Putley
Alkimi
Ben Putley
CEO and Co-Founder
“We have to put off the first no for as long as we possibly can. Once they say no, the deal is dead.”
Media & Advertising
EP 43 Elizabeth Kiehner
Nortal
Elizabeth Kiehner
Chief Growth Officer
“It’s not just the art of the possible. It’s the art of the doable.”
Demand & Growth
EP 42 Clare Turner
Pearl & Dean
Clare Turner
Chief Commercial Officer
“Heavy streamers are the heaviest cinema-goers. Streaming is not the death of cinema.”
Media & Advertising
EP 41 Owen Griffiths
The Sun
Owen Griffiths
Commercial Revenue Director
“The conversation around news avoidance is changing, and a quality free press matters more than ever.”
Media & Advertising
EP 40 Justin Reid
Tripadvisor
Justin Reid
Senior Director of Global Partnerships Solutions
“Research, data, and insights are where every great travel campaign begins.”
Partnerships & Ecosystems
EP 39 Joseph Worswick
OpenX
Joseph Worswick
VP EMEA and Global Head of Sustainability
“You can learn a lot about our industry. But the attitude to care has to come with the person.”
Media & Advertising
EP 38 Lina Tonk
Recurly
Lina Tonk
Chief Marketing Officer
“If you don’t have a group like Pipeline Warriors, sales and marketing together two or three times a week changes everything.”
Product & PLG
EP 37 Cat Botibol
Secret Cinema
Cat Botibol
Business Development Director
“The more digitally we run our lives, the more premium it feels to show up face to face.”
Brand
EP 36 Cat Hartland
SBS
Cat Hartland
UK Growth Lead
“Indie agencies need tools, not just access.”
Media & Advertising
EP 35 Ben Woollams
TrueRights
Ben Woollams
CEO and Founder
“Brands are buying rights for 300 pieces of content and using 20.”
Creator Economy
EP 34 Virginie Chesnais
Happydemics
Virginie Chesnais
Chief Marketing Officer
“I have been in this industry for seven years because the data never stops being interesting.”
Measurement & ROI
EP 33 Marc Webbon
Wonderhatch
Marc Webbon
Co-Founder and CEO
“Culture isn’t something I impose on my team. When the team builds the culture themselves, they never want to leave the boat.”
Brand
EP 32 Helen Keelan
LG Ad Solutions
Helen Keelan
Senior Sales Director
“No viewer journey on an LG TV looks the same. Having a view of all those behaviours changes how every brief gets answered.”
Media & Advertising
EP 31 James Grant
Equativ
James Grant
SVP and Head of Advanced TV
“We read an audience profile in 300 milliseconds and change the ads in that stream.”
Media & Advertising
EP 30 Aisling Conlon
UK Advertising
Aisling Conlon
International Trade Director
“Use events as the hook to unlock business. Not as the destination.”
Partnerships & Ecosystems
EP 29 Dana Kalfas Bodine
Trustpilot
Dana Kalfas Bodine
VP of Marketing
“Increasing a trust score by one point drives an 8X increase in purchase conversion.”
Customer Experience
EP 28 Damon Reeve
Ozone
Damon Reeve
CEO
“The premium web is clearly understood now. Four years ago when we started talking about it, people didn’t really know what we meant.”
Media & Advertising
EP 27 Simon Green
Edit Cloud
Simon Green
Founder and CEO
“The big challenge is bringing hearts and minds along on the journey.”
Media & Advertising
EP 26 Lotte Jones
The News Movement
Lotte Jones
Chief Commercial Officer
“Brand safety caution is starving journalism of funding. And journalism without funding cannot hold power to account.”
Media & Advertising
EP 25 Henry Skelsey
Songtradr
Henry Skelsey
VP of Product Marketing
“Marketing, advertising, sales, it’s always about human empathy. technology will always try to remove it.”
Brand
EP 24 Timo Weis
Infosys
Timo Weis
Global Head of Growth
“If you only focus on quick converters, in a year’s time you’ll have no leads because you didn’t tend the other pots.”
Demand & Growth
EP 23 Andrew Grosso
Pickaxe
Andrew Grosso
Co-Founder and CPO
“Every company is a data company, whether you sell greeting cards or run a streamer.”
Data & Identity
EP 22 Lori Goode
Index Exchange
Lori Goode
CMO
“I came in to build product marketing from scratch, and that is exactly what we did.”
Media & Advertising
EP 21 Linn Frost
Social Element
Linn Frost
Co-CEO
“We asked every person we meet: who do you follow, and why?”
Creator Economy
EP 20 Michael McNerney
Martech Record
Michael McNerney
Publisher
“Target audience, positioning statement, reach, frequency, rinse and repeat. I hate to say it to this audience, but it is not brain surgery.”
Partnerships & Ecosystems
EP 19 Simon Morris
Adobe
Simon Morris
VP of International Marketing
“88% of marketing leaders say demand for content has doubled in two years.”
AI & Automation
EP 18 Kirsty Fraser
Movable Ink
Kirsty Fraser
Senior Director of International and Lifecycle Marketing
“You have to show people what they get for sharing their data. Otherwise why would they transact their personal information with you?”
Customer Experience
EP 17 David Keene
Wipro
David Keene
European CMO
“Marketing can be lazy. lift is harder to see but it is what actually matters.”
Data & Identity
EP 16 Jonathan Beeston
Salesforce
Jonathan Beeston
Product Marketing Director
“Without the right data foundation, the agents cannot function.”
Product & PLG
EP 15 Maria Shcheglakova
PubMatic
Maria Shcheglakova
Marketing Director EMEA
“We first try to think who are we creating it for? What's in it for them?”
Media & Advertising
EP 14 John Watton
Independent
John Watton
Fractional CMO and Advisor
“You can just punch far above your weight, even the smallest company.”
AI & Automation
EP 13 Vitaly Pecherskiy
StackAdapt
Vitaly Pecherskiy
CEO and Co-Founder
“At the end of the day, those decision makers, those executives of those companies, they're people like everybody else.”
Media & Advertising
EP 12 Jennifer Berry
Digitas UK
Jennifer Berry
CEO
“Being really comfortable not always having the answers, that's what I've learned.”
Leadership
EP 11 Azlan Raj
Dentsu EMEA
Azlan Raj
CMO
“The more curious you can be about the areas that are outside of your remit, the better marketer you'll be, even as a specialist.”
Leadership
EP 10 Mark Debenham
Adverity
Mark Debenham
VP of Growth Marketing and Marketing Operations
“We've suddenly got a whole load of other colours on that palette now, and the canvas is bigger.”
Data & Identity
EP 9 Christopher Hogg
Lotame
Christopher Hogg
Chief Revenue Officer
“It's another salesperson, it's a shop window to our business.”
Data & Identity
EP 8 Steve Reny and Jennifer Griffin Smith
Acquia
Steve Reny and Jennifer Griffin Smith
CEO / Chief Market Officer
Product & PLG
EP 7 Giulia Zecchini
ESL FACEIT Group
Giulia Zecchini
Commercial Partnerships Strategy Director
“I'm always looking for people that get the numbers, but then can storytell with those numbers.”
Partnerships & Ecosystems
EP 6 Shafqat Islam
Optimizely
Shafqat Islam
CMO
“Do fewer things better.”
Product & PLG
EP 5 Mary Cirincione
Propeller Group
Mary Cirincione
Vice President
“There's no substitute for being able to share something in your own words.”
Brand
EP 4 David Shing
Independent
David Shing
Digital Prophet
“Big data, small decisions. Those small decisions, they become micro habits. Those micro habits are estimations of our needs.”
Brand
EP 3 Marilyn Mead
Winmo
Marilyn Mead
CMO
“I've lied on surveys. Not lied, but sometimes you just want to get a question over with and move on with your life.”
Demand & Growth
EP 2 John Karl
Catalyst
John Karl
Head of Client Development and Growth
“We are technology agnostic, and I don't say that lightly.”
Demand & Growth
EP 1 Portrait of James Slezak, co-founder and CEO of Swayable
Swayable
James Slezak
CEO
“Ideally before, because then you can do something about it.”
Measurement & ROI

“The worst thing you can do is be ignorable.”

Toby Southgate · Global Group CEO, We Are Social · Ep 96

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