Episodes
Leadership and organisation
Episodes on the people and structures behind marketing: the CMO's remit and relationship with the board, leading teams, and how agencies are changing. Guests include Sir Martin Sorrell of S4 Capital, Stephan Pretorius of WPP, Jennifer Berry of Digitas UK and Rob McLaughlin of AUDIENCES.
- EP 145
Dr. Ali Alkhafaji Chief Executive OfficerApply Digital “I always tell people AI will not replace your job, someone with AI will replace your job, and I think that's the differentiator.” AI in the marketing organisation - EP 138
Rob McLaughlin Founder & CEOAUDIENCES “we believe that the data and the technology is almost always there” Data, identity and privacy - EP 137
Luis Miguel Messianu Founder, President and Chief Creative OfficerMEL “the universal tends to be a bit generic. You know? It's kind of beige. It's kind of vanilla.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 136
Lisa Morgan Managing DirectorGeneration Media “kids will decide for themselves if they like something or don't like it.” Trust and brand safety - EP 135
Miguel Machado CEOKeenfolks “we put a lot of focus on technology, but sometimes the answer comes from people.” The future of agencies - EP 131
Emma Armstrong CEO and Global Transformation OfficerBBDO “You cannot replace people with technology.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 129
Carmen Rodriguez Global Chief Growth OfficerGUT “we prioritize people first, work second, and clients last.” The future of agencies - EP 127
Tracey Shirtcliff Founder & CEOSCOPE Better “the reason that we've had time and materials in the way that we've been pricing for agency business and why margin is a problem now is because it's been in the too hard box” The future of agencies - EP 124
Matt Longley CEOMobsta “If business intelligence isn't a bigger revenue driver for us in five years than advertising, then we've done the wrong thing.” Attention and context - EP 123
Fiona McKenzie President, EuropeMarketbridge “You're not really a CMO, are you? You're transformation director.” Sales and marketing alignment - EP 119
Jennifer Kattula GM & CMOMicrosoft Advertising “the marketing leader is often at the tip of the spear when it comes to some of these questions” AI search, agents and discovery - EP 116
Sir Martin Sorrell Executive ChairmanS4 Capital “So the world has changed. The industry hasn't changed with it yet.” The future of agencies - EP 115
Mark Ritson FounderMiniMBA “we are gonna go into a horrendous decade, I think, for, for the marketers themselves, even though the, the business of marketing gets more exciting.” Brand building - EP 110
Harry Davies VP of marketing strategy, investment and effectivenessSage “you're certainly not gonna get fired for bringing in Salesforce” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 108
Renaye Edwards Chief Operating Officer and MDAmmunition “They don't give a shit about that.” B2B demand and pipeline - EP 104
Stephan Pretorius CTOWPP “if you know that it's AI, it's not, it's not being used that well.” The future of agencies - EP 100
James Denton-Clark Chief Growth and Client PartnerStagwell Europe “I think there are a lot of people in the industry who are still living the lives of the mad men.” The future of agencies - EP 99
Chris Bagnall Chief Executive OfficerTransmission “we've gotta cut the amount of content that we're creating by about a third 'cause it's just slop.” B2B brand and storytelling - EP 96
Toby Southgate Global Group CEOWe Are Social “The big idea is bigger than ever. The definition just changed.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 94
Paul Cash Founder and Chief RoosterRooster Punk “Brand is a simplification tool. The customer is the hero.” B2B brand and storytelling - EP 87
Minter Dial Author, Speaker & Thought LeaderMYDIAL “Brand is lived by your employees first. Not a logo on a thirty-second spot.” Leadership, teams and talent - EP 85
Jem Lloyd-Williams President of Mindshare and CSO of WPP MediaMindshare “The answer is the easy bit. The question is where the value sits now.” AI in the marketing organisation - EP 79
Andrew McCormick former Chief Growth Officerdentsu X “Three pillars of a successful agency: talent, process, and reputation.” The future of agencies - EP 77
Jason Warnes Marketing Advisor and InvestorIndependent “The capability question” The future of agencies - EP 54
Oli Bealby Co-FounderStereo Creative “Big ideas and great design shouldn't be separated” The future of agencies - EP 39
Joseph Worswick VP EMEA and Global Head of SustainabilityOpenX “OpenX did it because it was the right thing” Programmatic, ad tech and supply quality - EP 36
Cat Hartland UK Growth LeadSBS “Giving indie agencies a fair advantage” The future of agencies - EP 33
Marc Webbon Co-Founder and CEOWonderhatch “The best content feels like the brand made it” The future of agencies - EP 30
Aisling Conlon International Trade DirectorUK Advertising “The champagne bottle of UK Advertising” International growth - EP 15
Maria Shcheglakova Marketing Director EMEAPubMatic “Storytelling is the secret sauce” B2B brand and storytelling - EP 2
John Karl Head of Client Development and GrowthCatalyst “SEO is not dead. It never was.” Brand and performance
Guests on this topic
- Dr. Ali Alkhafaji Apply Digital
- Rob McLaughlin AUDIENCES
- Luis Miguel Messianu MEL
- Lisa Morgan Generation Media
- Miguel Machado Keenfolks
- Emma Armstrong BBDO
- Carmen Rodriguez GUT
- Tracey Shirtcliff SCOPE Better
- Matt Longley Mobsta
- Fiona McKenzie Marketbridge
- Jennifer Kattula Microsoft Advertising
- Sir Martin Sorrell S4 Capital
- Mark Ritson MiniMBA
- Harry Davies Sage
- Renaye Edwards Ammunition
- Stephan Pretorius WPP
- James Denton-Clark Stagwell Europe
- Chris Bagnall Transmission
- Toby Southgate We Are Social
- Paul Cash Rooster Punk
- Minter Dial MYDIAL
- Jem Lloyd-Williams Mindshare
- Andrew McCormick dentsu X
- Jason Warnes Independent
- Adam Clyne Coolr
- Kimberly Hairston-Hicks Gold Bond
- Oli Bealby Stereo Creative
- Joseph Worswick OpenX
- Cat Hartland SBS
- Marc Webbon Wonderhatch
- Aisling Conlon UK Advertising
- Maria Shcheglakova PubMatic
- Jennifer Berry Digitas UK
- John Karl Catalyst
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Frequently asked questions
Which Business of Marketing episodes cover leadership and organisation?
34 episodes so far. The most recent are with Dr. Ali Alkhafaji of Apply Digital, Rob McLaughlin of AUDIENCES and Luis Miguel Messianu of MEL.
What does Leadership and organisation cover?
Episodes on the people and structures behind marketing: the CMO's remit and relationship with the board, leading teams, and how agencies are changing. Guests include Sir Martin Sorrell of S4 Capital, Stephan Pretorius of WPP, Jennifer Berry of Digitas UK and Rob McLaughlin of AUDIENCES.


