Episodes
Brand and creativity
Episodes on how brands are built and how creative work earns its place, from the balance of brand and performance to creators, live experiences, sport and purpose. Guests include Emma Armstrong of BBDO, Carmen Rodriguez of GUT, Jaki Ellenby of ABBA Voyage and Cindy Gallop of MakeLoveNotPorn.
- EP 146
Richard Davis Co-Founder & CEO51toCarbonZero “greenwashing sometimes is better than green nothing” Sustainability, purpose and inclusion - EP 141
Olaf van Gerwen Founder & Global Creative DirectorChuck Studios “Do not look like your category.” Brand building - EP 139
Luca Filardo Chief Revenue OfficerAdlook “It's not just democratisation, it's innovation.” Programmatic, ad tech and supply quality - EP 137
Luis Miguel Messianu Founder, President and Chief Creative OfficerMEL “the universal tends to be a bit generic. You know? It's kind of beige. It's kind of vanilla.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 134
Katie Mitchell Managing DirectorSeen Studios “People can sniff, you know, inauthentic, um, storytelling and narratives a mile off.” Experiential and events - EP 132
Alistair Hill Co-FounderOn Device “using those sort of straightforward easy metrics as a way for measuring the business impact of brand advertising is completely mad.” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 131
Emma Armstrong CEO and Global Transformation OfficerBBDO “You cannot replace people with technology.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 130
Erin Chin Global Head of Brand MarketingLogitech G “I can tell you, I'm a mom of two boys who are 13 and 14, and they watch zero broadcast television. Zero.” Creators and influencer marketing - EP 129
Carmen Rodriguez Global Chief Growth OfficerGUT “we prioritize people first, work second, and clients last.” The future of agencies - EP 128
Michael Scott Global Chief Revenue OfficerLoopMe “if all you're doing is investing in that lower funnel, sooner or later you're gonna burn out of in-market” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 126
Tom Murphy Chief Creative OfficerVML “the great ideas are great ideas, and they make you jealous and they make you inspired and they rev you up for next year.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 117
Cindy Gallop Founder & CEOMakeLoveNotPorn “I am out to prove you can scale love, and I'm scaling love.” Sustainability, purpose and inclusion - EP 115
Mark Ritson FounderMiniMBA “we are gonna go into a horrendous decade, I think, for, for the marketers themselves, even though the, the business of marketing gets more exciting.” Brand building - EP 114
Russell Pedrick Managing DirectorOctave “Audio now accounts for 24% of the average adult's daily consumption. But, you know, depending on what numbers you, you look and believe, it's between 2 to 3% of total ad spend. Well, that doesn't, that doesn't add up.” Publishers and media owners - EP 113
Paul Evans Chief Positioning EngineerV2RSION.COM “It's never been easier to start a business. It's never been harder to scale a business, right?” Brand building - EP 110
Harry Davies VP of marketing strategy, investment and effectivenessSage “you're certainly not gonna get fired for bringing in Salesforce” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 109
Kahlen Macaulay Head of Sports and Media Partnerships, InternationalSnap “if you're not in that conversation, you're really missing out” Sport, fandom and entertainment - EP 108
Renaye Edwards Chief Operating Officer and MDAmmunition “They don't give a shit about that.” B2B demand and pipeline - EP 107
Nick Beck Founder and CEOTug “AI has disrupted a lot of what people thought they knew about search, so it is a big conversation again.” AI search, agents and discovery - EP 106
John Rudaizky Global Chief Brand and Marketing OfficerEY “brands are the engine of the world” B2B brand and storytelling - EP 105
Nishma Patel Robb Founder and CEOUnmissable “please no more McDonald's CEOs eating burgers that aren't real.” Trust and brand safety - EP 103
Niall McKinney Founding PartnerThe Creative Engineers “there's using AI, and then there's just being bloody lazy.” AI in the marketing organisation - EP 100
James Denton-Clark Chief Growth and Client PartnerStagwell Europe “I think there are a lot of people in the industry who are still living the lives of the mad men.” The future of agencies - EP 98
Milka Privodanova VP Marketing Solutions, Large Customers InternationalLinkedIn “Trust and credibility is the new currency in B2B.” Creators and influencer marketing - EP 96
Toby Southgate Global Group CEOWe Are Social “The big idea is bigger than ever. The definition just changed.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 91
Tom Ollerton FounderAutomated Creative “Ignorance and grit.” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 89
Dragos Marica Associate Director, Performance MarketingDirective “Break things. Then keep what works.” B2B demand and pipeline - EP 88
Dawn Miley Senior Director, EMEA Growth Marketing & UK Regional MarketingAdobe “Storytelling is the whole job. That's it.” Brand and performance - EP 86
Martin Corke Chief Marketing OfficerBauer Media Outdoor “Out-of-home is the oldest traditional medium with the brightest future.” Publishers and media owners - EP 84
Jen Brown DirectorEngaging Interactions “Marketing's job is to create the environment sales needs to feel confident.” B2B demand and pipeline - EP 83
Jaki Ellenby Chief Commercial OfficerABBA Voyage “Every brand I've worked for has been the only one of its kind.” Experiential and events - EP 81
Bryan Barletta Founder & PartnerSounds Profitable “Every brand is a media business. Most of them haven't realised yet.” Publishers and media owners - EP 80
Ben Smith Marketing DirectorReachdesk “Pipeline happens when you interrupt the pattern.” B2B demand and pipeline - EP 78
Paul Anderson Global Founding Partner & Executive Creative DirectorGravity Global “A brand is the idea you own” B2B brand and storytelling - EP 77
Jason Warnes Marketing Advisor and InvestorIndependent “The capability question” The future of agencies - EP 73
Leon Harlow Group Commercial DirectorYMU “Community over reach” Creators and influencer marketing - EP 70
Stephanie Dittmer Rogers EVP of MarketingSan Francisco 49ers “Fandom is identity” Sport, fandom and entertainment - EP 68
Kevin Hein Chief Growth OfficerGIPHY “The party analogy for messaging” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 67
Christie Sclater SVP of Global MarketingClinique “Simplicity is the hardest work” Brand building - EP 65
Jay Prasad CEORelo Metrics “From stopwatches and VHS tapes to second-by-second AI” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 62
Dennis Claus Strategy Lead EMEAApply Digital “Personalisation versus personal” Customer experience and personalisation - EP 60
Darren D’Altorio SVP of Paid MediaWpromote “Technology changes fast, humans don't” Brand and performance - EP 59
Tony Marlow Chief Marketing OfficerLG Ad Solutions “A to B does not equal B to C” Connected TV and streaming - EP 56
Aarti Bhaskaran Global Head of Research and InsightsSnap “On the role of insights” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 55
Shannon Shae Montoya Vice President, Head of Global B2B Marketing, Sponsorships & EventsYahoo! “A team of live storytellers” Experiential and events - EP 54
Oli Bealby Co-FounderStereo Creative “Big ideas and great design shouldn't be separated” The future of agencies - EP 53
Mindie Kaplan VP InnovationMediaMint “You can create a one-person movement” Sustainability, purpose and inclusion - EP 46
Gordon Glenister Author, Speaker, Podcast Host, FounderMembership World “Don't chase the influence, chase the passion” Creators and influencer marketing - EP 43
Elizabeth Kiehner Chief Growth OfficerNortal “The company that digitised a nation” Experiential and events - EP 40
Justin Reid Senior Director of Global Partnerships SolutionsTripadvisor “Pet food meets travel planning” Partnerships and sponsorship - EP 39
Joseph Worswick VP EMEA and Global Head of SustainabilityOpenX “OpenX did it because it was the right thing” Programmatic, ad tech and supply quality - EP 37
Cat Botibol Business Development DirectorSecret Cinema “80% of people want to be awestruck” Experiential and events - EP 35
Ben Woollams CEO and FounderTrueRights “Six out of ten digital campaigns breach talent usage rights” Creators and influencer marketing - EP 34
Virginie Chesnais Chief Marketing OfficerHappydemics “Stop measuring what's easy, start measuring what matters” Measurement and effectiveness - EP 33
Marc Webbon Co-Founder and CEOWonderhatch “The best content feels like the brand made it” The future of agencies - EP 30
Aisling Conlon International Trade DirectorUK Advertising “The champagne bottle of UK Advertising” International growth - EP 27
Simon Green Founder and CEOEdit Cloud “Technology is only part of the solution” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 25
Henry Skelsey VP of Product MarketingSongtradr “The most heard sound in human history” Brand building - EP 19
Simon Morris VP of International MarketingAdobe “The golden age of creativity” Creativity and creative effectiveness - EP 7
Giulia Zecchini Commercial Partnerships Strategy DirectorESL FACEIT Group “Authenticity or nothing” Sport, fandom and entertainment - EP 6
Shafqat Islam CMOOptimizely “If we stopped marketing, nothing would change” B2B demand and pipeline - EP 2
John Karl Head of Client Development and GrowthCatalyst “SEO is not dead. It never was.” Brand and performance
Guests on this topic
- Richard Davis 51toCarbonZero
- Olaf van Gerwen Chuck Studios
- Luca Filardo Adlook
- Luis Miguel Messianu MEL
- Katie Mitchell Seen Studios
- Alistair Hill On Device
- Emma Armstrong BBDO
- Erin Chin Logitech G
- Carmen Rodriguez GUT
- Michael Scott LoopMe
- Tom Murphy VML
- Cindy Gallop MakeLoveNotPorn
- Mark Ritson MiniMBA
- Russell Pedrick Octave
- Paul Evans V2RSION.COM
- Harry Davies Sage
- Kahlen Macaulay Snap
- Renaye Edwards Ammunition
- Nick Beck Tug
- John Rudaizky EY
- Nishma Patel Robb Unmissable
- Niall McKinney The Creative Engineers
- James Denton-Clark Stagwell Europe
- Milka Privodanova LinkedIn
- Toby Southgate We Are Social
- Victoria Dyke Ziggy
- Tom Ollerton Automated Creative
- Dragos Marica Directive
- Dawn Miley Adobe
- Martin Corke Bauer Media Outdoor
- Jen Brown Engaging Interactions
- Jaki Ellenby ABBA Voyage
- Bryan Barletta Sounds Profitable
- Ben Smith Reachdesk
- Paul Anderson Gravity Global
- Jason Warnes Independent
- Leon Harlow YMU
- Stephanie Dittmer Rogers San Francisco 49ers
- Kevin Hein GIPHY
- Christie Sclater Clinique
- Adam Clyne Coolr
- Jay Prasad Relo Metrics
- Dennis Claus Apply Digital
- Kimberly Hairston-Hicks Gold Bond
- Darren D’Altorio Wpromote
- Tony Marlow LG Ad Solutions
- Aarti Bhaskaran Snap
- Shannon Shae Montoya Yahoo!
- Oli Bealby Stereo Creative
- Mindie Kaplan MediaMint
- Kerel Cooper GumGum
- Ruslan Tovbulatov Gloat
- Gordon Glenister Membership World
- Elizabeth Kiehner Nortal
- Justin Reid Tripadvisor
- Joseph Worswick OpenX
- Cat Botibol Secret Cinema
- Ben Woollams TrueRights
- Virginie Chesnais Happydemics
- Marc Webbon Wonderhatch
- Aisling Conlon UK Advertising
- Simon Green Edit Cloud
- Henry Skelsey Songtradr
- Linn Frost Social Element
- Simon Morris Adobe
- Vitaly Pecherskiy StackAdapt
- Azlan Raj Dentsu EMEA
- Giulia Zecchini ESL FACEIT Group
- Shafqat Islam Optimizely
- David Shing Independent
- John Karl Catalyst
- James Slezak Swayable
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Frequently asked questions
Which Business of Marketing episodes cover brand and creativity?
72 episodes so far. The most recent are with Richard Davis of 51toCarbonZero, Olaf van Gerwen of Chuck Studios and Luca Filardo of Adlook.
What does Brand and creativity cover?
Episodes on how brands are built and how creative work earns its place, from the balance of brand and performance to creators, live experiences, sport and purpose. Guests include Emma Armstrong of BBDO, Carmen Rodriguez of GUT, Jaki Ellenby of ABBA Voyage and Cindy Gallop of MakeLoveNotPorn.









